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Letter: Projects welcomed, if funding supported
uncommonsense
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 10:56 pm

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Check out Mitch McConnell's record. He's quite the player and knows that game very well. He puts on a real nice show for the cameras while he's in Washington but that's all it is. Show. Pretend. Faux outrage to feed the folks back home who vote for him.
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Letter: We don't need, want Obama health care
itsjustme
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 10:49 pm

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Imagine that! A conservative (and probably a republican) calling for regulations. Where were you during the last administration? Why weren't you pushing the Bush administration and the republican congress for regulation of the banking industry? Why weren't you pushing the Bush administration and republican congress for regulation of Wall Street? Maybe we could have avoided the financial meltdown if conservatives had called for a few regulations? And when the liberals "regulate" things, because God knows a republican never saw a regulation he liked, all you hear from conservatives is "They're taking away our freedoms! I'm tired of government telling everyone what to do. Government should get out of the way!" Now you're calling for regulations. Hilarious if it weren't so contradictory, hypocritical and pathetic.
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Letter: Projects welcomed, if funding supported
mdenis46
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 10:41 pm

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I am struck by the members of Congress -- and I'd assume the Legislature in Frankfort, too -- who claim to be conservatives and vote against spending, but are the first to get their photos in the paper standing behind an over-sized check to some organization or community, or whatever. Liberals who vote for spending bills at least have the right to have their photos in the paper.

If they didn't want to spend the money, why are they expecting praise for spending it?

Hypocrites all.
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Letter: Restore rights to certain felons
bluesman
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 9:47 pm

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One more thing, while realizing you were on the recieving end of it, you got to admit, there was alot of good simple basic wit in obama fans post. I realize that it zinged you, but hey man, good humor is good humor.
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Letter: Restore rights to certain felons
bluesman
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 9:45 pm

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shellak47 said:
Obama Fan said:
shellak47 said:OFAN,I was sent this link about the rise of inmates. They peaked in 2009 at 1 in 100 Americans behind bars. And before you try to debunk and counter with it has fallen .4 percent in 2010, read further........It was because they started letting prisoners out earlier to save MONEY.http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usjusticeprison/print
Do you have some point that you are trying to make or are you just proud that you were able to cite an article?
I am sorry; I figured with all the bickering about inmates and the failed corrections dept., it would be obvious what the point is. OFan says that the justice system is working, but we need to give them better food and that the tactics we used in the "olden days of wild west, john wayne" type of justice did not. IT was a simple point. We have more criminals in the year 2009 than ever before and more percentage wise. The only decline was due to "early outs."I just posted the link due to the idiotic ofan's incessant posting of links and debunking. I don't have time to do nothing but look up links and post them.. That one was sen to me by another friend of mine.Obamafan I am proud of a great many things in my life, but winning a debate or argument with someone of you obvious tunnel vision and limited socialistic intelligence would not be anything to brag about, much less posting a link that you spent hours trying to debunk.bluesman, glad you found it funny. I don't feel the need to cite articles or quote what othe people think. I do not need the liberal press or socialist party to tell me what to write. I simply write what is on my mind.
tyrone1938 said:iam a felon can not drive cab vote own gun nurse trucking company will not hire me so tell smart ass what do u want me to do owe know die right ok
Now, if this is for real: We want you to learn to read and write. All that free room and board the tax payer's provided was not spent well. You could have went to school while in prison, on our dime.Curious, would you be Sass's son?I smell trout as well.

In this country we keep on making more and more laws making more and more things illegal. Its my thinking this could have something to do with a rise in prison populations. I was reading someplace about how the U.S. has more of its population in prison than any other nation, or something to that regard. Its not just liberals who do this, its conservatives as well. We have to many laws. I advocate every 5 years all laws are erased and we go back to the constitution to start over. Of course thats not going to happen. BTW, thats troll, not trout.
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Letter: Restore rights to certain felons
shellak47
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 9:22 pm

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Obama Fan said:
shellak47 said:OFAN,I was sent this link about the rise of inmates. They peaked in 2009 at 1 in 100 Americans behind bars. And before you try to debunk and counter with it has fallen .4 percent in 2010, read further........It was because they started letting prisoners out earlier to save MONEY.http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usjusticeprison/print
Do you have some point that you are trying to make or are you just proud that you were able to cite an article?



I am sorry; I figured with all the bickering about inmates and the failed corrections dept., it would be obvious what the point is. OFan says that the justice system is working, but we need to give them better food and that the tactics we used in the "olden days of wild west, john wayne" type of justice did not. IT was a simple point. We have more criminals in the year 2009 than ever before and more percentage wise. The only decline was due to "early outs."
I just posted the link due to the idiotic ofan's incessant posting of links and debunking. I don't have time to do nothing but look up links and post them.. That one was sen to me by another friend of mine.
Obamafan I am proud of a great many things in my life, but winning a debate or argument with someone of you obvious tunnel vision and limited socialistic intelligence would not be anything to brag about, much less posting a link that you spent hours trying to debunk.

bluesman, glad you found it funny. I don't feel the need to cite articles or quote what othe people think. I do not need the liberal press or socialist party to tell me what to write. I simply write what is on my mind.

tyrone1938 said:
iam a felon can not drive cab vote own gun nurse trucking company will not hire me so tell smart ass what do u want me to do owe know die right ok


Now, if this is for real: We want you to learn to read and write. All that free room and board the tax payer's provided was not spent well. You could have went to school while in prison, on our dime.
Curious, would you be Sass's son?

I smell trout as well.
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Letter: We don't need, want Obama health care
LDCitizen
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 5:55 pm

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Exactly my point "itsjustme"...

Did big government take over nuclear power plants and private industry to give us clean air and water? No...they regulated it.

Did the government start providing abortions? No, they regulated it.

Does our government produce beer and wine? No, but they regulate it.

Did government have to take over all private corporations to provide a safe working environment...nope? They regulated it.

Etc..Etc..Etc.

So, does the government have to take over healthcare in order to meet the needs of the people? No, the could regulate it. Unfortunately, they don't. And why? Because they are too concerned with their payoffs from private corporations and not concerned enough to do the job for the people who elected them.
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Letter: We don't need, want Obama health care
db!o
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 5:54 pm

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Yes, they sound like good people. What has happened to all those kinds of liberals? They were the Patriotic kind. Where are those kind at now? They sure are NOT what is in office now. They have become a 'different kind' of liberal, uummmm like 'make our own laws, the sheeple will not know the difference'.Well they best wake up! and get in step, because they have RILED the Mother Bear.
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Letter: Fix USA now, before it's too late
Jeff726
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 3:25 pm

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This is coming from someone who supports Barack Obama no less, haha.
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Letter: We don't need, want Obama health care
itsjustme
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 3:11 pm

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Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to insure their safety and that they work as advertised. All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer’s medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance – now Joe gets it too.

He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor. Joe begins his workday. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s employer pays these standards because Joe’s employer doesn’t want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he’ll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn’t think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It’s noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression. Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.

Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers’ Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans. The house didn’t have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification. He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn’t mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day everyday. Joe agrees: “We don’t need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I’m a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have.”

If you have ever breathed clean air or drank clean water, thank a liberal.

If no woman you know has died or been maimed in a back-alley Abortion, thank a liberal.

If you have ever used Medicare, thank a liberal.

If you ever drank a beer or a glass of wine without being thrown in jail, thank a liberal.

If you are not a land-owning white male, but have voted, thank a liberal.

If your workplace is safe and you are paid a living wage, including overtime; if you enjoy a 40-hour week and you are allowed to join a union to protect your rights without being lynched, thank a liberal.

If your children go to school instead of working in coal mines, thank a liberal.

If you kind of like freedom of speech, and don’t want the state government to be able to censor you – (you think the 14th amendment is a good idea) – thank a liberal.

If you don’t have to walk though ankle-deep sewage in the streets (because sewers are big gummint), thank a liberal.

If you are not a land-owning white male, but have voted, thank a liberal.

If you have not died from tainted meat, been prescribed something useless or poisonous by a quack doctor, have not given your children cough syrup which turned out to have heroin as its secret ingredient, thank a liberal. (and Nixon)

If your family benefited from the GI Bill of Rights, FHA Mortgages, and so forth, thank a liberal.

If you are glad that the Nazis don’t control half the world (conservatives opposed joining World War II until it was forced on them) thank a liberal.

Thank a Liberal
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Letter: Trash contract stinks
troutbum
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 2:11 pm

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the city commissioner meetings are scheduled and posted on the city's website. you can attend and speak during the hear from the public segment. it is so easy.

your voice can be heard in the may primary election.

the city did one pole as far as i know on the garbage issue. it was a single workshop held several months ago. to be fair to them it was announced and posted in the paper. but to my knowledge that was the extent of the public input. keep in mind the general public does not see these comments. only what is actually in the paper.
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Meet the candidates in Lincoln
uneedme
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 1:12 pm

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I read this article to say that people CAN ask questions during the 6-7:30 time period.
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Letter: We don't need, want Obama health care
LDCitizen
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 12:48 pm

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In my opinion the health care bill soon to be passed against the will of the majority of the people is simply another slight of hand trick by the largest cartel in the history of our country. Now, before you jump to the assumption that I am a Republican...check yourself. I am a registered Independant that voted for the current administration based upon their lies and for fear of having a lunatic one heart beat away from the presidency. I really don't have the time or inclination to debate every talking point here but rather I will simply focus on the one that is being used now as justification for pushing THIS bill through vice the original variants that included the public option. That is, "We have to do something to help the 30 million americans that are currently uninsured". I mean...that is what this one really boils down to right? No one really knows what is in this bill and probably won't until it is passed but this is the political foundation for passing it "By whatever means necessary".

So, here's my take. Simply, requiring healthcare and making it illegal NOT to have it is how the Democrats are planning to address this issue. If you disagree...then chime in an tell me other than this what the current bill does to address THIS issue. Now, if requireing healthcare simply does miraculously give 30 Million people healthcare then why not simply make it illegal to be homeless? Poof...wave the wand and we have then cured one of the largest social issues in our country today. Why not...well...because it doesn't work that way. This is just a tactic...watch what the left hand is doing while the right hand is screwing. Then ask yourself why this is happening and you will find the answer is simple...MONEY and Politics. The DEMS have to try this trick because they made you and me promises so if you buy this crap then the promise is fullfilled. They get to move on with you believing that TRUE reform was accomplished and they have your backing on their future agenda items. That's the political side. On the money side, well...how ingenious. The 30 Million supposedly now have healthcare and of those that can really afford it and choose not to buy it...now they have to buy it. What does that mean...the big insurance companies are now making more money than before. So, how did this get accomplished? The DEMS talked anti-Insurance company rhetoric all along and now Big insurance is making more money than before. Doesn't make sense does it.

Well, it makes more sense than anything else does if you use the brain that God gave you and stopped drinking your party's kool aid.

The DEMS were bought off by big insurance so they are happy,
the insurance companies now have MANDATED health care and they are making more money so they are happy,
you think there was real reform and now you're happy,
and the Republicans have a platform for November and they are happy.

Everyone is happy in the Healthcare Cartel. Ain't Democracy grand?

And if you doubt any of this then ask yourself why the public option is not in the current bill...let's play that out. If that were to happen...

The DEMS are no longer happy because the insurance company's aren't giving them any money for taking business away from them,
The insurance companies are not happy because they aren't increasing their profits,
You initially are happy but then you realize the tax increase and then you aren't happy,
and the Republicans still have a platform for November

Whew! So I ask you this...why don't we just regulate the insurance and health care industry? There are already aspects of this in the bill such as telling the insurance companies that they can't drop people for pre-existing conditions. That's regulation...break them up...make them compete...regulate their profits. Talk about a scenario that worked in the past...do you remember the break up of the Bells?

All I'm saying is that its time for people to use their knoggins and stop buying the crap coming out of Washington...vote them all out and keep doing so until they listen.
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Red Cross services restored to Lincoln a week after cut
ripples resident
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 12:21 pm

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They should not only encourage it, the leaders of the county(and city) should be ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS !!
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Meet the candidates in Lincoln
ripples resident
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 12:19 pm

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If we, the voters cannot ask questions of the candidates, then what's the point of attending ? Let them give their "2 minutes: to the press. I'll read it !!!
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Letter: We don't need, want Obama health care
Obama Fan
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 12:06 pm

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hawkti62 said:
Bottom line: I have better health insurance than anyone that has commented on this subject. And all of it, every last bit, is provided by the government. Yes, it is sometimes a pain to have to talk to several people over the phone to get a bill straightened out, or to get a referral. But it is certainly easier than any process that Blue Cross, Humana or Aetna ever put me or my family through. Rant on about the government all you want, but at the end of the day every person here has done something today, used some service, that was provided by the government. Chances are that thing that you used, that service that was provided, was at least satisfactory. The Big, Bad, Mean Ol government making sure that you and your children have access to the most basic thing in life (the services that keep you from dying) is not socialism, Marxism or communism. It's government doing what is best for the people, whether the people are smart enough to know it or not. And if any of you think that Blue Cross, Aetna or Humana give a damn about you or your well being, you ought to be deported back to Retardland - the place from whence your forebears came.


If government insurance is good enough for Sarah Palin's grandson then by gum it is good enough for me!
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Letter: Trash contract stinks
EAH
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 12:05 pm

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i wonder if the newspaper ever uses the information from the comments or those little poles they put on their homepage. it would be great to hear that someone represents us on some of the issues at the city meetings and other opportunities. we all speak very openly here and most of us agree that the city government is not doing the job we all hoped they would. we need to find out when this garbage issue will be discussed again and attend the meeting together!
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Coffee Party meets in Danville, seeks solutions rather than blame
gratex2
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 9:57 am

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Only seven people showed up? Looks like a rejection of Socialism to me. No more Hub for me either. I'll have my coffee at home.
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Letter: Restore rights to certain felons
bluesman
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 9:21 am

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Obama Fan said:
shellak47 said:OFAN,I was sent this link about the rise of inmates. They peaked in 2009 at 1 in 100 Americans behind bars. And before you try to debunk and counter with it has fallen .4 percent in 2010, read further........It was because they started letting prisoners out earlier to save MONEY.http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usjusticeprison/print
Do you have some point that you are trying to make or are you just proud that you were able to cite an article?

No disrespect meant to shell here, but dang thats funny.
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Letter: We don't need, want Obama health care
bluesman
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 9:20 am

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shellak47 said:
< CBs won't reach that far unless they are really, REALLY jacked up. Short wave radio is what I believe you mean, and no, I have never owned one..



Depends on the weather. I'm a driver, and on a night when cloud cover is over a good half of the nation, I can hear some folks in california talking with the skip running on the C.B.
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Letter: We don't need, want Obama health care
sweetiepie
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 9:10 am

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hawkti62...I had government insurance when I worked for the dept of revenue and the state police accident records section back in the 70's and it wasn't so great. only 80 percent coverage and alot of restrictions. I do agree that we need affordable healthcare but I do not agree it being forced on us. We have to take their uniform plan. Our lawmakers pass this stuff whether we want it or not and we have to comply with it. For instance seatbelt laws. Cars are equipped with airbags and such now, why force us to wear seatbelts? It should be about choice. And before anyone jumps on this with all the pros, and how it saves lives..they may help in some instances but not all. My brother was hit by someone else two different times and officers at both scenes stated that had he been wearing his, he would be dead. This is not just opinion it was a certainty. In one of those, the only thing that saved his life was that he was thrown from the vehicle. Had he been strapped in, he would have lost his head. I myself was in an accident back in the 80's that I was wearing mine and the officer stated that my injuries would not have been as bad if I had NOT had it on. And I do know several people over the years that the seatbelt didn't help them one bit and they lost their lives anyhow. There are pros and cons to both sides of that issue. But we are not given the choice. It's uniform for all. Just as this healthcare thing. Choices to make on our own decisions are being taken away from us. We must ALL have a health plan APROVED by the government. What if the government one day says my private insurance is not good enough? I'm fined if I don't take their version of it. Choice gone. Where does it stop? Far too much intrusion and telling me what I need or don't need. I am a grown up not a child and that is what the government is treating us like. We all don't know what is good for ourselves so they step in. Years down the road kids are not going to know how to go to the bathroom unless the government tells them how to do it. All thought process is gone because the government does that for us. No choices left. And it is not a republican or democrat thing its both sides doing it.
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Letter: We don't need, want Obama health care
hawkti62
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 7:30 am

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Bottom line: I have better health insurance than anyone that has commented on this subject. And all of it, every last bit, is provided by the government. Yes, it is sometimes a pain to have to talk to several people over the phone to get a bill straightened out, or to get a referral. But it is certainly easier than any process that Blue Cross, Humana or Aetna ever put me or my family through. Rant on about the government all you want, but at the end of the day every person here has done something today, used some service, that was provided by the government. Chances are that thing that you used, that service that was provided, was at least satisfactory. The Big, Bad, Mean Ol government making sure that you and your children have access to the most basic thing in life (the services that keep you from dying) is not socialism, Marxism or communism. It's government doing what is best for the people, whether the people are smart enough to know it or not. And if any of you think that Blue Cross, Aetna or Humana give a damn about you or your well being, you ought to be deported back to Retardland - the place from whence your forebears came.
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Letter: We don't need, want Obama health care
derek casey
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 3:47 am

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and this will be the first time in america that if you don't want insurance you will be fined for not havuing it by the government.

by the way 37 states have bills being drawn up that says if the government tries to tax you that they will sue them in court because it is not in the governments power in the constitution to make anybody have it!!!

there are several judges that have been looking at this bill for as long as they have been talking about it. they all say it is unconstitutional!!!

obama is going down on this marxist venture hard. his entire party will lose many many seats over it. the only people who back this bill are truely unamerican marxists/socialists. it is that plain and simple.


here is something else to chew on awhile. i hate each side as much as anybody. the simple fact is the democratic party is made up mainly of lawyers. blood sucking good for nothing lawyers who make a living off everybody else. the republicans are mainly businessmen!! people who own businesses!!! who would you pick to run a country?? lawyers sure know how to take money from everybody else!! businessmen do as well. i'd pick everyday commen working people myself. at least we know what a budget is and know how to freaking live by one!! you sure as hell can't say that about either of the other groups we have running the country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Letter: We don't need, want Obama health care
derek casey
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 3:31 am

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according to the april 1st 2000 census(that me and my x-wife filled out) there is 281,421,906 people in america. that was 10 years ago. now i want you to stop and thing long and hard. to thier own admission if this healthcare bill passes they will cover 30-40 million people!! that is all!! so where do the othere people turn to? i have insurance frommy job. they plan to tax that as well!!!! so each of us will still be paying for the other 241,421,906 people who were alive in 2000 that aren't covered or they will be in the same boat they are now!!!!

yep sure sounds good to me!!!

i have to agree something needs to be done. turning our healthcare over to the government is not the answer!!! all each person who has half a brain can look and see that there are is not enough coverage in this bill to do anything to help. something needs to be done very much. turning our healthcare over to the same people who over see social security,medicare and medicade sure as hell isn't the answer. you'd be a damned fool to believe for one second that is the right answer. i don't know what is, but uncle sam taking over sure isn't it by a long shot!!!!
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Letter: Logging hurting the Forkland area
derek casey
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 1:44 am

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i am a pro gun and pro hunting person. i won't even begin into the fact that we had land stolen from my family that we had owned on mill creek since my father and uncle was 10 years old. the crook knows who he is. we are not the only ones he has done this way in boyle county.

the way most logging is done is they clear cut everything. if it is usable they keep it and use it. if not they cast it aside.

hins forth the reason i moved out of boyle countuy and i'm looking to move on southward. i want at leats 30-50 acres for myself. i don't want to steal land like we had done to my family. i want my own and i want it unlogged for many years. i live to hunt. i eat everything i shoot. logging the fork should damned well be a crime!!!!
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Letter: We don't need, want Obama health care
Obama Fan
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 1:15 am

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No, I'm not saying you did drink on the job. Just with your addiction and all. You know having to have a drink on the way back from the liquor store while you were driving. Just didn't figure you would want to put a man with that kind of weakness behind the wheel of an 18-wheeler.

Sorry if I came across wrong.
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Letter: Restore rights to certain felons
Obama Fan
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 1:13 am

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shellak47 said:
OFAN,
I was sent this link about the rise of inmates. They peaked in 2009 at 1 in 100 Americans behind bars. And before you try to debunk and counter with it has fallen .4 percent in 2010, read further........It was because they started letting prisoners out earlier to save MONEY.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usjusticeprison/print


Do you have some point that you are trying to make or are you just proud that you were able to cite an article?
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Letter: Restore rights to certain felons
shellak47
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 12:35 am

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OFAN,
I was sent this link about the rise of inmates. They peaked in 2009 at 1 in 100 Americans behind bars. And before you try to debunk and counter with it has fallen .4 percent in 2010, read further........It was because they started letting prisoners out earlier to save MONEY.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usjusticeprison/print
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Letter: We don't need, want Obama health care
shellak47
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 12:29 am

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Obama Fan said:
Probably on the CB radio. I doubt you did drive a truck long haul... with your drinking problem and all. Just saying.


1. Never drank on ANY job.
2. Never had a drinking problem, that would be like you having an opinion problem. Well, no you do have a problem.
3. CBs won't reach that far unless they are really, REALLY jacked up. Short wave radio is what I believe you mean, and no, I have never owned one.
4. Just because you don't have friends, doesn't mean the rest of us don't.
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Letter: Logging hurting the Forkland area
shellak47
Thursday, March 18, 2010: 12:25 am

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I hate to see logging!! I know it is necessary to feed our insatiable need/greed for lumber and building supplies, but it rapes the land. I especially hate clear cut logging.

That said, I also believe that the replanting should be mandatory and should be the same kind of trees that are cut. I would be easy to keep up with and the same percentages of tree species +- 5% replanted. This because I have seen strip miners and loggers replant only pine and other soft woods after clear cutting hardwoods.

I have seen responsible logging done and I have seen logging done in the mountains with MULES!! That was ecologically the best way, but impractical costwise for most cases.
Just an opinion.

Oh, Yes OFAN........I have friends who are loggers as well!!!! No kidding.
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bluesman
Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 10:19 pm

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Wood is a resouce that we can use, and replant for the future. I know what the writer means by forkland being a scenic place, but I see nothing wrong with logging as long as we replant afterwards for future generations.
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Red Cross drops Lincoln
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 9:29 pm

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To people claiming "America first!": The Red Cross is *not* an American organization. It originated in Europe along with the same ideas that lead to the Geneva Convention. The American Red Cross only donated $1,000,000 to Haiti, a relatively small amount, considering. Don't make the mistake of confusing the "American Red Cross" with the "Red Cross." They're not the same thing.

The American Red Cross is primarily supported by community donations. It has nothing to do with Haiti or "not putting American's first." It has to do with people, you people, not donating to it. It has to do with the local government not supporting it nearly as much as other local governments do theirs.

Putting families in temporary housing after a fire isn't free. If that's a service the community doesn't want, then that's okay. But, if that's something the community wants, then that's something the community has to pay for.

If I had time, I'd collect more information to illustrate my point, but I think it's clear enough.
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Letter: Restore rights to certain felons
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 9:00 pm

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tyrone1938 said:
iam a felon can not drive cab vote own gun nurse trucking company will not hire me so tell smart ass what do u want me to do owe know die right ok


Ok, yea right. I smell a troll account.
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Red Cross services restored to Lincoln a week after cut
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 8:42 pm

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And the Lincoln fiscal encourages a countywide Red Cross fund raising drive when?
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Obama Fan
Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 7:43 pm

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Probably on the CB radio. I doubt you did drive a truck long haul... with your drinking problem and all. Just saying.
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Letter: We don't need, want Obama health care
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 7:35 pm

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Obama NUT: I am sorry you find it hard for me to have friends. I have friends in Fla., TN, OH.,WV. IN.,PA., MA.,VT.,GA.,AL.,MS.,MI.,ID.,IA.,KY.,IL.,NM.,AZ.,TX.,VA., and proabably more states that I have forgot. Several in Canada and also AK. However, there is one guy in Austrailia who doesn't think very highly of me. No, I never drove a truck long haul. I made most of these friends save the Canadians and the Floridians here in KY. You wouldn't like them, they are very conservative.

It's easy to make friends unless your a bitter Liberal Butthole like you!!
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Obama Fan
Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 7:18 pm

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mdenis46 said:
In 48 other states, civil rights are restored to felons after they serve their sentence. Why in my home state, life inmates at the state prison can vote! While I'm not suggesting Kentucky go that far, getting out of prison is hard enough; not having any civil rights just makes it that much harder, and thus more likely that the person will re-offend.

Obama Fan, if one sends this document you reference in to Frankfort, is it practically automatic that rights are restored, or not? Don't know, just asking... If it is, then it's probably fine as is. If not, then rights should restored as soon as the felon walks out of the prison gate.


It is at the pleasure of the Governor. Beasher has been very open that he will restore the rights to anyone who asks so long as:
1) They have served all their time. No probation, no parole, completely served out.
2) Have no outstanding fines or restitution.
3) The prosecuting attorney does not object.

I think it is amazing all the brouhaha over restoring the right to vote. You have all of these registered voters and yet 50% is considered a good turnout. To me, registering to vote and carrying out the duty is a sign of being a good citizen, and that is what we should want from those who have made bad decisions in the past.
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 7:11 pm

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Thank you.
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mdenis46
Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 7:11 pm

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In 48 other states, civil rights are restored to felons after they serve their sentence. Why in my home state, life inmates at the state prison can vote! While I'm not suggesting Kentucky go that far, getting out of prison is hard enough; not having any civil rights just makes it that much harder, and thus more likely that the person will re-offend.

Obama Fan, if one sends this document you reference in to Frankfort, is it practically automatic that rights are restored, or not? Don't know, just asking... If it is, then it's probably fine as is. If not, then rights should restored as soon as the felon walks out of the prison gate.
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Letter: We don't need, want Obama health care
cottontwig
Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 7:01 pm

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sweetiepie,

I recommend that you not worry yourself about reading and reporting on the Health care Bill. Despite the fact that you will be more informed than most who vote on it or against it. The leftist progessives on here do not care what you find. They do not feel you are smart enough to actually read and understand it anyway. They like Obama are commented socialist or want to be. They could care less about what it cost. They could care less if it is good or bad for the country. They could care less if corporate corruption is now shifted to government corruption. The end result is for the good of the party. It is not about giving someone the right to health care, not about cost savings, not about saving lives, it is not about the mean ole insurance companies. Example: If is was about saving lives then why is it we are waiting 4 or 5 yrs for it to kick in. Obama and hs friends do want to be near this thing when we find out what we have done to our country and they need those years to put as much perfume of this pig as possible. This is their way of driving a stake in the ground and putting a chain around your neck and hooking you to the stake. This is the foundation for which all things in the future will come from the government. One day they will say car insurance isn't fair so they will take over that, then whatever industry does not fit their political agenda or gets in their way will be attacked and become government owned.

If you read closley on here there are folks on here that have no intention of contributing to society except to make all things equal by speading resources that they themselves have neither the talent nor the drive to achieve. They are closet under achievers and content to have the government send someone to them to pin a diaper on rather than potty training themselves. They hide behind a veil of doing what is right and fair. Saying those on the right are selfish and should be stripped of thier right of property for the good of society. Example: Let's do away with pre existing conditions to get health insurance. Why do that? Is it to help someone qualify for insurance. Yes. BUT, it will also drive all the private carriers out of the market. So we will be left with the single payer system. The Government complete take over. All the other arguments that the left gives you boils down to not health care cost, availability, fairness, quality, efficiency but rather it is to remind you that health care comes from us on the left. Now humble yourself unto us and never forget the teat from which your milk comes. Soon as we do this we are going to put more chains on you BUT, you be still now, it won't hurt the government is your FRIEND. We only want what is YOURS.
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 6:29 pm

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If you want your right to vote and hold public office restored, then you only need to print the form below, fill it out , and send it in. You should hear back from Frankfort in 90 days or so.

http://www.corrections.ky.gov/NR/rdonlyres/37016A92-1E59-47DD-8278-2E2642100D16/0/Restoration_of_Civil_Rights308.pdf
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Letter: Trash contract stinks
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 6:27 pm

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yonsta50, I'm not happy to pay for a raised garbage fee. Not at all. EAH is right on the money...bills are high enough already. And usmcvetran327 is also right on money as well. The city commission's own agendas and beliefs, in addition to lacking common sense, more times than not seem to ignore the citizens (taxpayers) while increasing the burden on us. As everyone knows, recycling is already offered, and doing quite well at the "overflowing centers." Why disrupt that? Why is a change needed? It's certainly not worth the increased expense the taxpayers will have to bear.
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 6:09 pm

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iam a felon can not drive cab vote own gun nurse trucking company will not hire me so tell smart ass what do u want me to do owe know die right ok
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Prep Softball: Harmon has helped turn Boyle County Middle School into winning program.
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 6:08 pm

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Coach Harmon was the best coach I've ever had. He not only knew the game and loves it, but he also loves his girls. Thank for everything coah Harmon, your the best!
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Letter: We don't need, want Obama health care
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 6:06 pm

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well I feel the same about you, so I guess we're even obamafan. W'ell see in the long run who is right. affordable healthcare just is not going to happen. We'll pay for it through the nose in more ways than one.
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Letter: Trash contract stinks
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 5:48 pm

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yonsta50 Recycling is the right thing to do and I commend you for doing it. The only reason we have been beat to curbside recycling is because the plan that was established a few years ago has basically been adbandoned by our civic leaders. Once the city got the citizens to pay for a once provided service, it became less of a priority for those leaders. We have invested funds and grants to purchase equipment to move toward recycling and now they wish to entertain scraping that plan. Our waste management coordinator says she is close now for a partial service by our city if they would only support it. She already has containers located around the city.

It is possible to make money for the city from this while doing the right thing. So while sanitation company x profits from our recylables, we pay a larger fee with no return to the community. That's all I am saying. And remember not every family in this community CAN pay more. You can be green, but don't be selfish.
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Obama Fan
Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 5:14 pm

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sweetiepie said:
Well What does non resident alien mean? Legal or illegal they get the same coverage and not have to pay for it. And as far as the end of life counseling just where do you think that will end? It has left it wide open for those options of euthanasia does it not. It is not clarified now is it? So that means that they can restrict your healthcare, deny treatment to those they deem inccurable and to save the taxpayer dollar instead of treating them getrid of them. By the way I noticed you praising England healthcare system. Have you actually spoke to anyone that has had to deal with delayed treatments because of their plan? You believe what you want, there is far to much government intervention in our lives now and this is just another step towards more of it. They are supposed to work for us not the other way around and that is exactly what it is coming to.


There is no reasoning with someone like you. You're like Bruce Willis in the Sixth Sense. You only see what you want to see. You could have a lawyer explain it to you and if he didn't tell you what you want to hear then you wouldn't believe him.

The funny thing is that all the points you brought up are the subject of email forwards that have been debunked numerous times. By the way, they are working for us by trying to secure the right to decent health care at an affordable cost.
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 5:02 pm

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Well What does non resident alien mean? Legal or illegal they get the same coverage and not have to pay for it. And as far as the end of life counseling just where do you think that will end? It has left it wide open for those options of euthanasia does it not. It is not clarified now is it? So that means that they can restrict your healthcare, deny treatment to those they deem inccurable and to save the taxpayer dollar instead of treating them getrid of them. By the way I noticed you praising England healthcare system. Have you actually spoke to anyone that has had to deal with delayed treatments because of their plan? You believe what you want, there is far to much government intervention in our lives now and this is just another step towards more of it. They are supposed to work for us not the other way around and that is exactly what it is coming to.
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Letter: Trash contract stinks
EAH
Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 4:17 pm

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well that is one thing our city government seems to be lacking...common sense!
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Harrodsburg woman sews dresses for Haitian girls
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 4:16 pm

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I think this wonderful lady deserves to at least be nominated for some type of humanitarian award!!
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usmcveteran327
Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 4:14 pm

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From the time I moved here a bit over three years ago it seems to me that our city commision cares more about their own agendas and beliefs then what is good and right for our community as a whole. There are some noteable exceptions to this rule and I am not naming names either way. I really fail to grasp why we should pay someone to pick up recyclables when they make a profit off the recycling of items by selling them to companies. Why are we not looking into purchasing the equipment doing it ourselves as a city and PUTTING OUR CITIZENS that lost jobs recently to work!! Am I the only one that this makes sense to? I don't pretend to understand all the political issues today but common sense should prevail in my opinion
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jdonne
Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 3:58 pm

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Sweetie Pie

What you mention about end of life counseling as mentioned on page 425 and 426 and resources available to the consumer is nothing more than an amendment to existing regulations that medicare shall pay for end of life counseling. What is end of life counseling? It is informing people about hospice and other pallative care. It is education about living wills and durable medical powers of attorney. It forces no one to be euthanized. It forces no one to execute a living will, no one to undertake advanced directives that they are not comfortable with. It simply informs people of their options.

I am sure you are familiar with the differences in a living will and a durable power of attorney. I am sure you know what services hospice will provide and how they are paid. But maybe other people aren't. And honestly, maybe they should be. I'm not in favor of telling anyone what to do, but I darn sure think they should have the option to be educated about it. I'm not opposed to medicare paying for it either. This doesn't even mandate the end of life counseling. It makes it optional. People make the best decisions when they are informed. People make the best decisions when given information, a time to digest it and ask questions.

You could go to a local attorney and spend about $125 to $175 an hour to be educated on the same topic.
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 3:49 pm

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i'm finding more and more reasons to move out of the city and into the county...and this one has been added to my list! i recycle on my own time at my own cost (which is nothing). i do not wish to be forced to pay for any containers or for recycling services. i think there needs to be some way that we the taxpayers vote on this stuff rather than having the wealthy city manager and commissioners resolve this on their own. i'm fine with trash pick up as it is. my bills are high enough, i don't need anyone adding to them. plus i already have to great trash cans...keep things they way they are and stop spending our hard earned money!
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 3:41 pm

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Dear Lord, somebody has watched too many distopian movies from the 70's. "End of life" care means nursing homes and hospices. There is nothing on page 425 about suicides.

Page 167 basically states that if you make enough to afford insurance and you decide not to get insurance, then you receive a tax penalty. That was hardly enough to make me wet my pants.

Page 59 intends to make it so that insurance companies will have to allow for automated payments. Whereas Geico is currently taking my monthly premium from my checking account automatically, this wasn't enough to make me want to sleep with a night light on.

Page 29... it dosen't start at page 29. You have to back up to page 28 to get the full context. Section 122 outlines broad categories of benefits that must be included in an essential benefits package. It prohibits cost-sharing for preventive care and limits annual out-of-pocket spending to $5,000 for an individual and $10,000 for a family, indexed for inflation. It says nothing about rationing or limiting treatment.

Also, there is nothing in the bill about health care for illegals. You just threw that in as a "kick the dog" type thing. You can always throw up the illegal alien boogeyman and get support.

In short the only thing here that is scary to me is the stark admission of your own foolishness.
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Bluegrass has Blarney Stones of its own
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 3:18 pm

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It would make a great tourism draw if the area rock fences were restored and mapped. They are a unique feature to this area.
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Letter: We don't need, want Obama health care
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 3:14 pm

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Ok since you've got nothing better to do than sit on this thing all day anyhow...and are too lazy to read through the thing yourselves..

Sce 401.59B page 167 Lines 18-24
Sec163 page 59-60 lines 21-24
page 29 lines 4-16
these 3 talk about rationing heatlth care, yes there is a limit how how much that can be allowed for you so you best not get anything serious. Also allows for ALL NON RESIDENT ALIENS access to coverage WE are paying for and they don't have to. And allows the government access to electronically dive into your bank accounts at will. Page 425 and 426 talks about providing an "approved" list of end of life resources...Now what do you think that means? Directions on how to kill yourself or assisted suicide when you are beyond what they deem fixable? Read the thing it is not a joke when they are obviously going to limit who gets treatments and for what they are treated for. Take your rose colored glasses off and read it!
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Letter: We don't need, want Obama health care
Obama Fan
Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 2:44 pm

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EAH said:
i'd like to read it too. i'm all for healthcare though. maybe not this bill, i'll see after i read more about it. i make too much money for any assistance but can't afford to pay for insurance on myself and my child. i'm really in a bind right now! i would have to give up my house (it's small and cheap) or my car (over 10 yrs old) and vehicle insurance. but of course i would have no place to live or nothing to drive to work...what do ya do? i'm labeled middle class living but can only afford a lower class life style!


Respectfully you are probably "working class." Many people think that they are middle class but in reality they fall into the working class. It is people like you (and me) who get shafted the most. We make too much money to get any assistance (not that we want it, but we couldn't get it if we needed it) but we don't make enough to afford everything that we really need. Many people in this category have been tricked into fearing the health care reform. They are told that they will be taxed more and then they won't be able to afford anything.

In reality, the rich have a way of making the working man think that their problems are his. The working class toils their entire lives making someone else richer settling for meager scraps from the master's table. CEOs who have never done a days labor in their lives look down from their ivory towers on their employees barely making a living wage whilst they take home millions.

And then we are supposed to feel sorry for them because their taxes are going up 3%. Get real!
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Letter: Send in census form
itsjustme
Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 2:31 pm

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He won't answer you bluesman. He took all his toys and left.
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itsjustme
Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 2:27 pm

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It's been 2 1/2 hours and sweetiepie hasn't responded to you OFan. Reckon the "scary things" caused her to faint?
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Letter: Send in census form
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 2:24 pm

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berron said:
To All Obama Butt Lickers:There is no legal or Constitutional basis for Obama's plan, citing the fact that Articel I of The U. S. Constitution, which contains the census provision, spells out the powers of Congress - not of the president or the executive branch."We (Congress) give to the executive branch and the Commerce Department the requirement to adminiister this constitutional duty, belonging to the Congress." By no means is there any basis, legal or constitutional basis, for the president to direct the census.It is clear that the intent of the constitution was to designate the the responsibility of census taking to the house of representatives. Obama is interested in redistricting more house seats into the liberal camp. It might also surprise you that I am a democrat and have been all my life. I'm just not an "over the edge liberal." If you want to make some idiotic reply, go ahead, I won't be reading anymore or following up to a bunch of liberal idiot remarks. You guys sound like Keith Olbermann.



So let me get this right, your saying that the census is not constitutional?
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Letter: Trash contract stinks
yonsta50
Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 2:03 pm

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We don't recycle because it's the cheapest thing, which is isn't, Mr. Hunstad...we recycle because it is THE RIGHT THING TO DO. The more we recycle the less goes into our landfills, how is that not a win win?

i recycle, and every time i take my stuff to the center on the weekend it's overflowing. People will participate if it is offered. We can't call ourselves "city of firsts" when we let Stanford, junction City, Lancaster all beat us to the curbside recycling idea. We shouldn't be followers but leaders.

I realize it'll raise my garbage fee, of which i'm happy to pay for the good of the community and environment.
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EAH
Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 1:41 pm

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i'd like to read it too. i'm all for healthcare though. maybe not this bill, i'll see after i read more about it. i make too much money for any assistance but can't afford to pay for insurance on myself and my child. i'm really in a bind right now! i would have to give up my house (it's small and cheap) or my car (over 10 yrs old) and vehicle insurance. but of course i would have no place to live or nothing to drive to work...what do ya do? i'm labeled middle class living but can only afford a lower class life style!
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 1:41 pm

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sweetiepie, I also would be interested to hear about the scary things in the bill. If they're "too numerous to mention," just give us three or four of the things which you found so scary so we can read them, too.
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Letter: Logging hurting the Forkland area
uncommonsense
Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 1:33 pm

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I know of at least one area that's being logged up there, and the stuff being removed are primarily trees that were felled (or damaged) back in '09 by the ice storm. And in that case, seeds and saplings are being planted to replace what's being removed.
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Harrodsburg woman sews dresses for Haitian girls
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 12:55 pm

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God bless you for all your kindness to help the people of Haiti. That is what this world is in need of, alot more love!
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 12:06 pm

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sweetiepie said:
Well i just got a couple of emails about some of the propsals outlined in the healthcare bill that is being "pushed" through. So taking the time to be diligent in finding the truth of it all, I looked up the health care bill. HB 3200. There are over 1000 pages of this and I looked up every notation that had been sent to me, as well as go some of the rest of it myself. Before anyone responds with how much we need this bill I suggest you look it up and read it for yourselves. There are things in there too numerous to mention here that is just plain scary and there is no way shape or form that I can be for this bill. I don't know how anyone who actually reads this can support it. I am going to continue to read through this as should everyone, I am sure it doesn't get much better from what I have seen so far.


Well share with us a couple of scary things and on what page we can find them. I could read the bill, but I'd like to know what's got your heart rate up.
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sweetiepie
Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 11:57 am

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Well i just got a couple of emails about some of the propsals outlined in the healthcare bill that is being "pushed" through. So taking the time to be diligent in finding the truth of it all, I looked up the health care bill. HB 3200. There are over 1000 pages of this and I looked up every notation that had been sent to me, as well as go some of the rest of it myself. Before anyone responds with how much we need this bill I suggest you look it up and read it for yourselves. There are things in there too numerous to mention here that is just plain scary and there is no way shape or form that I can be for this bill. I don't know how anyone who actually reads this can support it. I am going to continue to read through this as should everyone, I am sure it doesn't get much better from what I have seen so far.
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Letter: Send in census form
EAH
Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 11:48 am

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i saw that on the form. but if mine sat around too long i'm sure it would have been lost or thrown away!
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Letter: Send in census form
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 11:36 am

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Actually, in order to fill it out properly and honestly, you should not fill it out prior to April 1, 2010.
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 11:13 am

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i think all the questions on the census are important, except name and phone #. asking if you have a mortgage helps them to know how many people are land owners and how many aren't. in this case, it is shown where people need better home loan options, habitat for humanity type stuff. you never know...if you didn't put your name on there what's it matter anyway?
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EAH
Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 11:09 am

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i filled out my census...all but my name and phone number. i was planning to fill the entire thing out but for some wierd reason this chill came over me and i didn't feel right putting that info on there. we have black people and white people in my household and i did do all of that correctly. i figure there's a number on there somewhere that can match me with my census if they ever need anything. i hope we see more money come into our area and more (or just better would be great) representation!
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 9:48 am

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Here's a better idea, take back the 400 billion and put it back in the pockets of THE CONTRIBUTORS, those who run and work in businesses and see the economy grow and take away the fodder for the legalized vote buying that exists now.
VETO (Vote Everyone of Them Out)
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mdenis46
Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 9:17 am

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berron said:
1. There is no legal or Constitutional basis for Obama's plan, citing the fact that Articel I of The U. S. Constitution, which contains the census provision, spells out the powers of Congress - not of the president or the executive branch.

2. "We (Congress) give to the executive branch and the Commerce Department the requirement to adminiister this constitutional duty, belonging to the Congress." By no means is there any basis, legal or constitutional basis, for the president to direct the census.

3. It is clear that the intent of the constitution was to designate the the responsibility of census taking to the house of representatives.

4. Obama is interested in redistricting more house seats into the liberal camp.


1. A quick lesson in Civics 101. Legislative = Senate and House. Executive = President. Legislative passes laws, i.e., take a census. Executive carries out those laws, i.e., gets the census taken.

2. I hope you don't think that you are quoting from the Constitution on this one, 'cause that language is NOT there.

2 and 3. Pray tell exactly HOW the House of Representatives would conduct a census with no executive staff to do the work. That is WHY we have the executive branch. Apparently the writer doesn't know that. That must mean that all executive branches are unconstitutional and must be operated by the House and Senate -- the military, social security and medicare, interstate commerce, transportation, human services, veterans' affairs, foreign affairs, the FBI and attorney-general, etc., etc. Do you even KNOW why there is an executive branch? Obviously not. I'd LOVE to see the House try to do all that.

4. Where was the writer in 1990 when it was supposedly a Bush plan for more conservative representatives? The executive has used the census to redistrict, according to its politics, ever since 1800. Does the phrase "gerrymandering" come to mind? It's no new Obama plan, it's just that conservatives want to blame everything on the spectre of evil, that socialist liberal communist statist new-world-order Democrat. Funny they weren't complaining when the same thing was done by conservative Republicans.

Unfortunately, berron, you won't be reading this because you have made up your mind that any response that questions your world view MUST be from a liberal idiot. Please continue in your mis-interpreted view of the Constitution. You obviously don't care to hear the truth, especially if it's different from what Rush and Glenn tell you it is.
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 7:09 am

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To All Obama Butt Lickers:

There is no legal or Constitutional basis for Obama's plan, citing the fact that Articel I of The U. S. Constitution, which contains the census provision, spells out the powers of Congress - not of the president or the executive branch.

"We (Congress) give to the executive branch and the Commerce Department the requirement to adminiister this constitutional duty, belonging to the Congress." By no means is there any basis, legal or constitutional basis, for the president to direct the census.

It is clear that the intent of the constitution was to designate the the responsibility of census taking to the house of representatives.

Obama is interested in redistricting more house seats into the liberal camp. It might also surprise you that I am a democrat and have been all my life. I'm just not an "over the edge liberal."

If you want to make some idiotic reply, go ahead, I won't be reading anymore or following up to a bunch of liberal idiot remarks. You guys sound like Keith Olbermann.
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jdonne said:Stick to econ, Bob. You have some relevance there.


You'd think he'd have plenty to talk about in that regard. Starting with Wall Street's meltdown, those who enabled them (on both sides of the aisle) and the failed policies that allowed it to happen (starting with Gramm–Leach–Bliley). Why the he!! isn't Bob talking about the things he's supposed to know about, in an honest, apolitical fashion? We as readers (and taxpayers) should demand it.
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 1:28 am

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Days before a Canadian Medical Association meeting expected to be dominated by talk of privatized health care, a poll indicates overwhelming support in this country for keeping medicare public.

The poll by Nanos Research, to be released today, found 86.2 per cent of the 1,001 people surveyed supported or strongly supported "public solutions to make our public health care stronger."

http://www.healthzone.ca/health/article/679824

By an overwhelming margin, Canadians prefer the Canadian health care system to the American one. Overall, 82% said they preferred the Canadian system, fully ten times the number who said the American system is superior (8%)....from a Harris-Decima poll (.pdf), July 2009. .

http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2009/08/never-mind-the-anecdotes-do-canadians-like-their-health-care-system.html

Meanwhile, the vast majority of Canadians, 91 per cent, felt that Canada's health care system was better than the United States.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080629/poll_us_canada_080629/20080629?hub=Politics

We have friends from Canada. Elective surgeries up there have a 3-5 year wait. True, if your surgery is for life threatening injuries or illnesses, you can be treated soon, but not for non emergencies.


That is entirely untrue. The average wait time for non-emergency surgery is 4 weeks. http://www.healthcoalition.ca/index-eng.pdf

If the hogwash that you claim was true, Canadians would not have one of the highest life expectancies in the world. Please show some statistic that says non-emergency surgeries have a 3-5 year wait. I dare you.

I really can't imagine you have any friends at all, let alone ones from Canada. Yet you also claimed to have friends that worked in prisons across the state. You seem to have more "friends" than John "my friends" McCain.
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Obituary: Nancy Raute
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 12:42 am

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I did not know this personl. I can not say she was a good or bad person. I will also say that what I think of a person does not change after they die. But she had children. Show a little compassion for them. I have seen lives end unexpectedly. You never know when you may dance with the grim reaper. If you don't like this person fine. But you don't have to hurt their relatives sill here. Reading that would definitely hurt them.
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Wednesday, March 17, 2010: 12:17 am

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She chose to do what she has done and payed for the life she lived! How many drug addicts CHOOSE to live that lifestyle and then EXPECT to be forgiven? They KNOW the risk, take it anyway then leave nothing but turmoil in their wake! I'm tired of this! With all the information out there to tell people the harm it does and they do it anyway! Now ask WHY our healthcare system is so depleted for the people who DON'T do drugs, are sick and can't get help!!! We spend more money on STUPID people like this who WILLINGLY pump themselves with toxins for a quick fix than expect the taxpayers to flip their medical bills to "help their poor sick souls" find Jesus and a new liver! I say TOUGH! She passed on her toxic behavior to a little boy that is now forever inflicted with what SHE did to him while pregnant and he isn't even MENTIONED in the obit! Poor baby Nick! Did you even know she had other children that were taken from her!? Eye for an Eye! Fire and Brimstone for her! Baby Nick couldn't defend himself either so take that to the bank!
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Tuesday, March 16, 2010: 11:29 pm

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Obama Fan said:
It is funny that people scream and cry about socialism. Our good friends, Great Britain, has universal health care. If you are a British citizen and you get hurt, you are taken to the hospital and cared for. There is no denying you coverage. The British seem pretty happy and they average Brit outlives the average American.France has universal healthcare. Socialist medicine if you want to call it that. They are a happy country with healthy citizens and guess what? The average French citizen outlives the average American. Canadians seem to be a cheerful sort. Rare that you ever hear anything bad coming out of Canada. They have Socialized medicine and they outlive the average American. None of these countries are known for being tyrannies. Their citizens enjoy most of the same freedoms that we do. If there are any freedoms that are lacking in comparison to our own, it has nothing to do with health care. Now once and a while you hear about someone having to come to America to have something done. What you don't hear is that the procedure that they seek isn't really going to do them any good. The 65 year old smoker of three packs a day who has had several heart surgeries and now wants a new heart, is going to have to wait till a healthy young man with a defect gets a heart. The 65 year old can't buy his way to the top of the list! So he comes to America where he can pay off the health care providers and basically buy a new heart. Meanwhile the young American man who was born with a defect and little money is just S.O.L. That's what happens when you mix healthcare with Capitalism. The wealthy are going to get the best care and the "working man" that we hear so much about - the tax payer - is going to get the scrapes from the table. Until the working class wakes up and realizes that they are not the wealthy- that making $50,000 a year is not wealthy- then they are going to continue to be pawns.



We have friends from Canada. Elective surgeries up there have a 3-5 year wait. True, if your surgery is for life threatening injuries or illnesses, you can be treated soon, but not for non emergencies.
Socialist countries have a bad record for medicine. People of all countries and races come here to practice medicine due to the fact they can make more money.
ANother thing that you probably won't believe, our friends son needed a surgery (no, I cannot remember what, it was 25 yrs ago) but the drs in Canuck land did not agree. He was put on a waiting list and got sicker by the day. After waiting for six months, they took him to a New York Hospital and paid cash. Back then the dollar was high and they lost a ton of money doing conversions, but it saved his life. The non-socialist drs here operated and told his parents he wouldn't have made it another 3 or 4 months without the surgery.
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Mercer school payroll mailing lost
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Tuesday, March 16, 2010: 11:04 pm

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This is just another in the long line of foolish behavior that has happened at Mercer County, especially MCSH. My son is a sophomore there and has now had 5 teachers for one class (music appreciation) and 3 now for his English class. How do they expect students to excel when the game changes on a weekly basis? As for the mishandling of the payroll, that is inexcusable and every faculty member has a right to protect their identity and for their employer to do the same...
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Tuesday, March 16, 2010: 9:26 pm

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Why was this mailed instead of hand delivered. One would think they could drop it off in person, especially if they were in in town conducting other business. Very careless. Don't give me tips on protecting my credit, if my credit does become jeopardized because of this, take responsiblilty & reimburse for any problems it has caused.
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Guest column: Climate change one more time
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Tuesday, March 16, 2010: 7:19 pm

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Conservatives have the attitude of "No we can't" or "No we won't" We can't just continue this economic system forever. It will be the death of us and the death of this planet. Conservatives arguing about climate change is like a passenger on a bus arguing about correct change while the bus is barreling ominously into a dynamite factory. Sure, the data may need corrections, but the overwhelming scientific consensus tells us that that human beings do indeed negatively impact our land, sea and air and there are things we can do, steps we can take, to deal with it. Mr. Martin would rather play politics and cheer for "his side" than take an objective look at all the crap we are doing in order to perpetuate meaningless economic systems that produce more waste than satisfaction.

Bob, go suck on a tail pipe if you believe this crap we're pumping out into our air isn't messing things up! With six billion people on the planet, more cars and power plants being built every day to accomdate them, and massive deforestation on a global scale, why can't you get on board with the idea that man does indeed have the ability to mess things up detrimentally?
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uncommonsense said:

So, don't let that title fool you. Nowhere does it state that a Professor Emeritus necessarily knows what he's talking about at any given time.


I have just as much education and more letters behind my name than your family doctor. That doesn't mean I am qualified to diagnose anything more than a hang nail. ;-)

Stick to econ, Bob. You have some relevance there.
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Tuesday, March 16, 2010: 6:04 pm

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Obama Fan - Thanks for the information. I was just wondering these things. Again thanks. Have a great evening. BILY
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Tuesday, March 16, 2010: 5:30 pm

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Bily said:
Why am I the only one who has not gotten their Census Form? I want mine! LOL Seriously, I have not gotten mine yet, mail must run slower up here. Ain't I important enough to receive one? If I need help filling it out which one of my friends will volunteer to help me? Mine was not in the mail today, but I am sure it will be here this week and when it gets here I will fill it out, mail it out and be counted along with my family in the Census.
Does anyone know if the public ever tells the results or numbers from one of these things? Do they also expect illegal living here to fill one out? Just asking these two questions because I am curious.


You can see the results of the census by going to Wikipedia and looking up any town in the US. That is where the information comes from. I actually do believe that illegals are expected to fill out one. The reason being that it makes no distinction if the person is legal, illegal, a natural born citizen, a legal immigrant, someone on a visa, and so forth. Its only purpose is to count the number of people and the demographics of the people. Illegals living in Boyle county are part of Boyle County's population. Ergo, they must be counted.
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Tuesday, March 16, 2010: 5:26 pm

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"It is our duty now to begin to lay the plans and determine the strategy for the winning of a lasting peace and the establishment of an American standard of living higher than ever before known. We cannot be content, no matter how high that general standard of living may be, if some fraction of our people—whether it be one-third or one-fifth or one-tenth—is ill-fed, ill-clothed, ill-housed, and insecure.
This Republic had its beginning, and grew to its present strength, under the protection of certain inalienable political rights—among them the right of free speech, free press, free worship, trial by jury, freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures. They were our rights to life and liberty.
As our nation has grown in size and stature, however—as our industrial economy expanded—these political rights proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness.
We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. “Necessitous men are not free men.”[2] People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.
In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.
Among these are:
The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
The right of every family to a decent home;
The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
The right to a good education.
All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
America’s own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for our citizens." - Franklin D. Roosevelt, January 11, 1944

The funny thing is that after WWII, when we were helping Japan and Germany rebuild, we put some of these "socialist" ideas into their new Constitution. Could that be part of the reason that they are outperforming us in the global market?
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Tuesday, March 16, 2010: 5:24 pm

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I know that age group, race, sex, and household numbers are avaliable on a fed website, I can't rember which one it is right now.
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Tuesday, March 16, 2010: 5:21 pm

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Why am I the only one who has not gotten their Census Form? I want mine! LOL Seriously, I have not gotten mine yet, mail must run slower up here. Ain't I important enough to receive one? If I need help filling it out which one of my friends will volunteer to help me? Mine was not in the mail today, but I am sure it will be here this week and when it gets here I will fill it out, mail it out and be counted along with my family in the Census.
Does anyone know if the public ever tells the results or numbers from one of these things? Do they also expect illegal living here to fill one out? Just asking these two questions because I am curious.
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Tuesday, March 16, 2010: 5:20 pm

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lcjones said:
Mr. Martin,In musicians circles we sometimes play a game called "I wish I wrote that song". Excellent article.**

I'm a musician thats never played that game.
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Tuesday, March 16, 2010: 5:14 pm

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It is funny that people scream and cry about socialism. Our good friends, Great Britain, has universal health care. If you are a British citizen and you get hurt, you are taken to the hospital and cared for. There is no denying you coverage. The British seem pretty happy and they average Brit outlives the average American.

France has universal healthcare. Socialist medicine if you want to call it that. They are a happy country with healthy citizens and guess what? The average French citizen outlives the average American.

Canadians seem to be a cheerful sort. Rare that you ever hear anything bad coming out of Canada. They have Socialized medicine and they outlive the average American.

None of these countries are known for being tyrannies. Their citizens enjoy most of the same freedoms that we do. If there are any freedoms that are lacking in comparison to our own, it has nothing to do with health care.

Now once and a while you hear about someone having to come to America to have something done. What you don't hear is that the procedure that they seek isn't really going to do them any good. The 65 year old smoker of three packs a day who has had several heart surgeries and now wants a new heart, is going to have to wait till a healthy young man with a defect gets a heart. The 65 year old can't buy his way to the top of the list! So he comes to America where he can pay off the health care providers and basically buy a new heart. Meanwhile the young American man who was born with a defect and little money is just S.O.L.

That's what happens when you mix healthcare with Capitalism. The wealthy are going to get the best care and the "working man" that we hear so much about - the tax payer - is going to get the scrapes from the table.

Until the working class wakes up and realizes that they are not the wealthy- that making $50,000 a year is not wealthy- then they are going to continue to be pawns.
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Tuesday, March 16, 2010: 5:07 pm

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From the Wiki......

A Professor Emeritus or Professor Emerita is a full professor who retires in good standing. This title is also given to retired professors who continue to teach and to be listed; they may also draw a very large percentage of their last salary as pension. The title may also be given to full professors who have left for another institution but are still working full time.


So, don't let that title fool you. Nowhere does it state that a Professor Emeritus necessarily knows what he's talking about at any given time.
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Tuesday, March 16, 2010: 5:00 pm

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jtudor2002 said:You have to love the fact that people think arguing healthcare reform for over a year is ramming it down anyone's throat. No, it's more like Obama was elected (I know that still makes some people's skin cringe) and he's getting his agenda enacted. End of story.


Amen!

We've been trying to get health care reform passed in this country for well over sixty years. The Party Of No (is in know nothing) had ample opportunity to address reform themselves for over fifteen years beginning in 1994 and NEVER DID. But that's something you'll never hear their side talk about. They're only interested in making obstructing the President of the United States by any means possible.

Whatever happened to their war cry that we used to hear all the time during the last administration... "We're at war. Support the President or shut the hell up."
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Tuesday, March 16, 2010: 4:59 pm

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lcjones said:
Tit for Tat, bluesmon, Tit for Tat .... :)

Please explain.
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Tuesday, March 16, 2010: 4:57 pm

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I just filled out my census form, how dare they ask my name, and the names of my wife and son. Obama is out to get me, lol.
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Tuesday, March 16, 2010: 4:48 pm

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lcjones said, "....it's only goal is to allow the Democratic Party to say they passed a Health Care bill."

In an interview with a retired Vice President of Cigna (Humana), Bill Moyers stated, "Back in 1993, the Republican propagandist, William Kristol, urged his party to block any health care proposal, in order to prevent the Democrats from being seen as the quote, "generous protector of the middle class."

And that's the Republicans only goal.

Watch this interview with a retired Vice President of Cigna (Humana) health insurance company.

Interview with retired Cigna Vice President
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Tuesday, March 16, 2010: 4:43 pm

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You have to love the fact that people think arguing healthcare reform for over a year is ramming it down anyone's throat. No, it's more like Obama was elected (I know that still makes some people's skin cringe) and he's getting his agenda enacted. End of story. When the GOP was in power, they did things that a lot of people didn't like and they got voted out. Maybe the same will happen to Democrats, but in the meantime, I hope they do what we elected them to do. Personally, I think denying someone access to healthcare is immoral.
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Tuesday, March 16, 2010: 4:42 pm

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Tit for Tat, bluesmon, Tit for Tat .... :)
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Tuesday, March 16, 2010: 4:37 pm

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lcjones said:
Of course, Obama Fan. Yer funny. Leprechauns. Kind of like the pot-o-gold the current administration seems to think they have.**


Or possibly like the pot of gold the former adminstration thought they had with all the out of control spending they did.
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Tuesday, March 16, 2010: 4:36 pm

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jacksprat said:
I always thought that writing a letter to the editor of a newspaper was so that you could state your opinion. I guess the person who made the first comment here thinks differently.I also do believe that Obama and Pelosi are attempting to cram this bill down the throats of the American people. The polls show that most Americans are not 100% behind this. If you look back to what recently happened in MA you would have to say that is an indicator that people are tired of this. If you remember the town hall meetings last summer you would have to believe that is an indicator that people are against this.I have yet to meet one person who is for this bill who has read it or understands it. I even watched an interview with a Democratic Senator who said you need a lawyer to understand this bill.If you are for this bill then support your beliefs with facts....

I'm not going to really get into the obama care debate, but I will point something out, this first poster, makes some real good points in his post don't he now.
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Honestly and so many in my family wonder why I left the republican party, sheesh.
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